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On April 14, 2020 Fahrusha welcomed Kathleen Marden to “Shattered Reality Podcast” to discuss the UFO debunkers and their origins as portrayed in her last book with ufologist and nuclear physicist Stanton Friedman, Fact, Fiction and Flying Saucers. It was her second outing with “Shattered Reality Podcast” and we hope she will return again. Hear her first interview here.
Our listenership represents a diverse group of individuals which include ufologists, parapsychologists, and others who have an intense interest in anomalous phenomena. In this interview we have endeavored to present an instructive look at UFO debunkers and how their activities relate to the naysayers in the area of parapsychology as well.
Debunkers and naysayers have a variety of motives for their activities which we explore. The nastiest of all the debunkers in the UFO field was the late Philip J. Klass, a writer for Aviation Week and Space Technology. He used every dirty trick in the book to denigrate researchers and ruin their lives, while insinuating himself into the workings of Project Blue Book and the Condon Report (1966-1968), both US government funded research projects. One of the best ufologists of the time, Dr. James E. McDonald, was driven to suicide by Klass’s relentless character assassination. Stanton Friedman, Marden’s co-author, was able to thoroughly research Klass and fight back.
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